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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat Mar 27 16:06:19 2004, in response to Re: PHOTOS, PHOTOS-1980's Graffiti Era, Pre GOH-What do you think?, posted by 4traintowoodlawn on Sat Mar 27 13:44:42 2004.
Thank you very much. Things were so bad back then that people of that era could not phantom a graffiti-free car, let alone an entire graffiti free subway and BUS system, especially in NYC.
What I have noticed is that everybody is talking about how filthy the cars were. Nobody is talking about how hot the cars were where as most of them were not manufactured with air conditioning. The R10 thru R32s, all but the last 10 R38s and the first 200 R40s did not come with a/c. They came with fans.
On the B-Division, the first car purchased with a/c was the R62s in 1983. The R12s thru R36s were not manufactured with a/c. The R26s thru R36s had a/c built in at Coney Island starting in 1979.
So to sum it up, not only were the trains filthy, they were hot as hell.
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