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Posted by bigedirtmanl on Sat Jul 29 01:57:26 2000, in response to Re: RED BIRDS TO SCRAP,
posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 28 08:58:00 2000.
Loud clatter of course, they were heavy for the el; and the did have the classic traction motor sounds a la Low-V, etc. There were 2 kinds of 4000's: the deluxe models with the neat seating, all those box vents, etc, and the baldies built in l9l4. some had cross seats, some long seats but all rattan upholstery. They were a little lighter, I think 35 tons. No trolley poles as they had iron rooves. Both types were a blast to ride. When you think about weight they're just a bit lighter than the old IRT stuff, the only existing NYCT stuff taht's heavier is the 75 foot cars. OTOH the IRT deckrooves weight just under 42 tons and the 1904 Gibbs when converted to MUDC just under 45 tons; I think that's heavier than R44, 46,68. Heavy for small cars.
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