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Posted by Mark from Queens on Tue May 8 08:49:16 2001, in response to Re: Where does "Upstate New York" begin?,
posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 7 14:15:53 2001.
Today, upstate would have to be fifty miles north of Route 84. Of course, in past times Commodore Vanderbilt was considered crazy building Grand Central so far uptown, and the Dakota apartment building in 1884 got its name becuase it was so far up north it might have been in the Dakota territory. Times do change.
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